Monday, 3 March 2008

Changes

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This post will be a bit longer than normal. But it's VERY IMPORTANT so we wanted to share with our friends and family so you could be praying for us. Sorry for any inconvenience.
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Life is full of changes. Otherwise it would get boring I guess. But this was one change we hadn't really counted on nor were looking for! We are excited (and sad at the same time) to announce that we believe Jesus is calling us to step out of the boat and to walk on the water to Him. What that means practically is that we will be HANDING OVER THE CHURCH! Bet you never saw that one coming, did ya?! We didn't really either. After being in Europe for 12 years, almost 8 of those as head pastor here, God is moving us on. (Or 7 years according to the calculations of some - see comment left by Anonymous on Sat Mar 08, 10:43:00 PM CET and the comments that follow that). ;-)

It started about a year ago, when (I believe) the Lord popped a thought into my mind - 'David, your task here is finished'. At first I didn't believe this, nor want to believe it. So I just kinda ignored it. But then again in Spring 2007, the thought came again. Now, just a bit of background - there were no major problems in the church, no personal conflicts with people, no sin, no family problems, nothing that we would be trying to 'run away' from. In fact, we were just about to start some new and exciting ministries! And there was even a growing enthusiasm in the fellowship. So there was no cause for this thought. But it kept coming back.

So in late Spring 2007, I talked with Becks and we agreed not to say anything to anyone and just to pray and seek the Lord. But inside, I still couldn't believe it nor want it. It wasn't until around Summer of 2007 that I finally came to the point where I had to say - 'Lord, if this is from You, You have to make it absolutely clear. To us and those around us. We will not make any moves based on thoughts, ideas, feelings.' I came to the point where I was beginning to accept that this could be from God and was open to whatever He wanted.

And it was around that time that God began really speaking - through Bible verses, other people (no one knew except Becks and I at this point) and circumstantial confirmations. Now I am normally a very cautious person and want to clearly and loudly hear from the Lord before I make any moves. So the Lord had to really pound it through my thick head. So here are the confirmations we got, over a 6-9 month period.

Biblical confirmation:
1. God gave us a verse when I first took over as head pastor at CC Freiburg. Paul writes to Titus in Titus 1.5 - 'for this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you.' That was what we were to do here. Now, this verse came back to my mind at the same time as the thought to leave. And the Lord spoke through this and said - 'David, what I sent you to do is finished'.

And as I honestly thought about it, He was right. A lot of the things that were lacking are now set in order. There is stability, maturity, unity and most important of all - real trust and openness towards one another. Plus, people have grown tremendously in their relationship with Jesus and others. And when I took over, there were no elders. They were 'let go' or 'sat down' (or however you call it) before I returned to Freiburg. But now we have several awesome elders (and I mean that - no better elders have I seen anywhere, in any other church). They love the sheep and truly have carried the burden with me over the last 8 years. So our task seems to be finished.

2. In 2Sam 7 and 1 Chron 22 King David had such a heart to build God a house, to build the Temple. But God basically told David - 'no, not you, you are not going to build the Temple, but your son Solomon will.' And that spoke deeply to me. It humbled me - I didn't really want to hear this! 'What do you mean, Lord? Why not me? What did I do wrong?' - all these thoughts ran through my mind.

3. Last fall I was preaching on Rom 15.20 (and 2Cor 10.16) about preaching the Gospel where the name of Jesus has not been named before. This was our vision for planting a network of home churches (not home bible studies) in the neighborhood where we currently live. But in studying, Rom 15.23 was the verse that struck home. Paul writes 'but now no longer having a place in these parts...' Again, I didn't want to accept this, but hmmm, it was there in black and white. Could it be that God was saying that we don't have a place in these parts any longer?

4. Our missions Pastor visited the church here last December and preached on Acts 8 on one of the Sundays. In this chapter, Philip was preaching in Samaria and people were getting saved (v4-8). But in v26 the angel of the Lord told him to 'arise and go toward the south along the road which goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza. This is desert.' As I was sitting there, the whole message and especially this verse hit me like a load of bricks. We were to arise and go. Whereto? South, into the desert. And immediately Murrieta came to my mind -it's in SOUTHERN Cali and it's desert, geographically.

And just like Philip who didn't know why he was supposed to leave the revival in Samaria to go into the desert, that was what God was calling us to do. To leave the new and exciting things going on at CCF and go into the desert. The next part I reeeaaaalllyyy didn't want to hear. But it seemed like it was going to be a spiritual desert for us as well as a physical one. That He was going to take us into a time of dryness, but we won't know why right now. We just need to step out in faith like Philip did - 'so he arose and went' (v27). And when he went, God then revealed the next step. So that is our challenge - arise and go, without knowing why or what the next step would be.

There are several more passages that the Lord brought to us, but I won't go into them except to list them now - Heb 11.8; Gen 31.3.

Circumstantial confirmation - not only did the Lord speak through His word, but also through others and the circumstances around us.

1. Last summer, a friend of ours had the same dream about us - twice. It involved us handing the church over and leaving. Little background - the Lord speaks very often to this person in dreams, so we don't think this was just a 'fluke or coincidence'. And for him to have the same dream twice! And this was 6 months before we told anyone about our thoughts! Hmmm.

2. In December of 2007, we got a call from the real estate agent who handles the apartment we are renting. He informed us that the owner wants to sell the apartment. We met with the agent the next morning and he said he hopes the transaction will be completed by summer 2008. So it seems like God is trying to boot us out the door (or is it the boat?), literally!

3. We came back from furlough at the end of January 2008 and I had a talk with our youth pastor. Both Becks and I believe he is the one to take over. But as I told him all this (for the first time), and after getting over the shock, he grinned and started laughing in disbelief. Without us saying anything, he already felt led to hand over the youth ministry to one of his assistants and was taking steps in that direction! Amazing how the Lord prepares both sides!

4. The day after we told the elders, one of their wives was having a hard time with the idea of us leaving. She then just randomly opened her Bible up and it opened up exactly to one of the passages above that confirmed it for us. Later that day she did it again - randomly opened her Bible and it came to another one of the verses above. So it was clear to her - this is God's leading.

Another elder's wife read in her devotional a few days after we told the elders. The devo was on Eph 4.11-12, and how the gifted people were given to equip the saints. And when that was done, the 'gifted men' are to move on. In fact, they are supposed to 'work themselves out of a job', in the shortest time possible. Paul did - he started churches, taught, equipped, raised up leaders and handed the church over. She saw that was what God was doing here. So she also had peace about this.

5. While on furlough, Becks had a vision, a picture during worship time at CC Murrieta. She saw clearly a cardboard moving box that she folded out and put together herself. But there was no lid yet. And she couldn't do the lid herself. Then she saw God fold a lid together and place it on the box and put the box aside, as if it were finished, packed, done. Pretty clear, eh?

So there we are. I don't know how much more the Lord would have spoken to us. But this was enough, we had to obey, no matter what we felt, thought or feared. Our part was to simply trust God and obediently and with whatever faith we could muster up, step out of the boat and onto the water. We have told the elders, then the general leadership and now also the whole church. And it seems like most were shocked at first, but then also admitted that they can see God in this.

Our plan is to hand over the church by Fall this year, then head back to SoCal for a season. And after that we believe the Lord will take us back out on our 3rd (my 4th) missions adventure!

So our youth pastor and his wife have prayed about this and have said yes, they'll take up the baton now and pastor this flock next. For them it is also stepping out of their boat. And really, the whole church is stepping out of the boat and looking to Jesus, as we all begin to walk on the water.

Pray for us. It is not easy for us - this has been home for the last 12 years for me, 11 for Becks. The kids have all grown up here, never having lived anywhere else. It will be a HUGE adjustment going back to SoCal, but we know God will give us everything we need. Thanks to all for your prayers, support and just by standing by us. We love you all!

17 comments:

The Phams said...

Thanks for sharing your heart and the way God is leading your lives. Can't wait to see what your next mission looks like! :) Many prayers and blessings.

onHISturf - dvp said...

thanks phams, we are sad, excited, anxious, but in all joy and peace reigns. and we're excited to see you guys getting going in your missions. we'll be praying for you!

david and phamily

Matt said...

Hi Phams,

It's great to see the Lord working in this way. We will be praying for you and for what lies ahead for you. The Lord is with you! I can imagine before you leave you will be teaching Acts 20 (meeting with Ephesian elders on Miletus) with many tears.

Love you guys!

The Kottmans

desi said...

Well, God is telling me you are supposed to come visit Denver for a time ;) Seriously, we are excited for you and your whole Phamily and will be praying for a smooth transition. Once you are settled in Cali and feel led, we'd love to have you visit and see what God is doing here in Denver with the organic churches that are springing up.

Thanks for sharing the whole story with us!
~Rose

onHISturf - dvp said...

hi matt,

thanks for the kind words - yes, i thought about doing acts 20, but we'll see. ;-) don't know if i would be able to hold back the tears myself!



rose and desi,

yes, would love to come visit one day. we'll find out more when we get back to socal. let you know.


david + phamily

Anonymous said...

Great news kids!! Pastor Brian announced it yesterday in church and we all prayed for you. It's been so fun over the years watching God direct your lives. So many great memories! I'm excited to see what He has for you in the future. But please stay in Murrieta for a little while, so we can hug those babies before they're off to college:)

Love,
Grandma Jan

luca said...

wow, it's amazing to see how the Lord works:-) I'll keep praying for you guys and I'm really happy I got to know you before you left the good ol' continent:P

Eric Collom said...

Daivd - we are so proud of you and your obeying the Lord's calling. I know leaving can be so hard, but you have been faithful to the Lord's call and you have blessed His heart. Desi and Rose were close to understanding God's will for your lives, but were off just a little bit God wants you to come to Eagle, Colorado not Denver... Please know you are in our prayers and if there is anything we can do to help you in your journey we would love to. Again Thank you for your Godly example of trusting the Lord and following His lead -- Utah --

onHISturf - dvp said...

hey mr. utah!

actually, we plan on coming out to the denver area for a visit - to see starrs, cruzer and yo guys. but we'll let you know more when we get back to socal and after we get settled back into life in the usa. thanks for the encouraging words.

phamster

Anonymous said...

It is good to read how the Lord has been leading you in this next step of your journey.
Yet as I read your story, I need to bring to your attention a false statement.
I noticed that you mentioned a few times that you have been head pastor of CCF for almost 8 years now. The truth is that you took over as head pastor on December 9, 2001. That would clarify that you have been head pastor for 6 years and 3 months to this date.
Please take care to give the truth when sharing about God's Work.

beckwanda said...

dear anonymous sir or ma'am,
i found nothing false about mr. pham's statement of pastoring the church almost 8 years. perhaps, and i am only making a suggestion and i am open to the fact that you may have done this already, but you may want to draw a row of 8 boxes (with or without lids, you may want to leave that part up to the Lord to fill in) and color in 6 and 3/12s of the boxes. then i would recommend standing back, bowing your head in prayer and asking the Lord to reveal the motives of your own heart in regards to public statements about truthfulness, and then look upon your drawing and see if it looks like you colored in almost 8 of the boxes.
to be honest, in checking my own heart, i have realized that i just have problems with people calling people liars in a public forum. this is assuming that you have not called or emailed mr. pham to discuss the issue privately. i have found this most alarming and will be praying for you all as well as praising my God for His love and faithfulness evident in a ministry that has glorified Him despite being performed by a sinful human being. ahhhh, sin, the great equalizer. if you have attempted to resolve the matter privately i would certainly apologize. i would like you to know however that mr. pham is one of the least likely people i know to lie purposefully but more importantly, one of the most likely people to repent quickly if he did.

desi said...

captain anonymous,
come on, if you have an issue with someone that you want to deal with publicly then don't you think you need to be public as well, rather than just the person that you think has done the wrong?
it's great to throw darts from the shadows.
you stated, "Please take care to give the truth when sharing about God's Work."
my statement to you is "please take care to give the truth of who you are when choosing to wrongfully judge someone who actually is doing God's work."
grow up.
lots of love,
desi starr

desi said...

david and becks,
just a quick little note to tell you how much i respect you both. i'm glad to know you and to have been able to observe your journey of following Jesus where He has and is leading you (even though most of that observing has been from thousands of miles apart). thanks for being obedient and open to His plan, whatever it may be.
love you guys,
desi

onHISturf - dvp said...

hahahaha! whoa beckwanda, down girl! retract the claws woman! just kidding! ;-) thanks for the kind words.

yeah that was my method of reckoning - 2001-2008 is 8 years (obviously not full years as you so aptly pointed out). actually the date in dec 2001 that was given by captain anonymous was only the official public date of the handover of the church.

the process began way before that - we made the decision to return to freiburg in the beginning of 2001, was ordained in march 2001 in preparation for our return, arrived in freiburg in april 2001. in late spring 2001, before summer, the leaders here were told about me taking over as pastor (i have the notes if anyone wants them) and i started taking SOME (granted not all of them) of the responsibilities of pastor in summer 2001. so the date in dec 2001 was the official end of a process that began at the beginning of 2001. hope that clarifies it a bit. ;-)

david

ps - note that i added a sentence to the post to assuage captain anonymous. ;-) read the 1st paragraph of the post again.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Lots of passion has certainly been unleased due to Captain Anonymous' comments. And I like Desi's comments about "throwing darts from the shadows." But it seems that Captain Anonymous is really not so very anonymous since he remembers that you took over as head pastor on December 9, 2001. Actually, thats a very telling statement. I do hope that Captain Anonymous can not only grow in knowing God's Word but also in living out God's Word, and will come to you directly if they have an issue.
Love,
Grandma Jan

Jp Jemima and Carissa said...

Hi Phamily,

Great to hear of your move to socal. We praise God for your gentle shepherding of CCF and your tall model for many like me. We also remember with thanks your standing by with us in our trying times and praise God for you.

Look forward to seeing you in socal. Please do try to make a visit to the bay area as well and we would love to spend some time with you and the kids.

Jp, Jemima and Carissa

onHISturf - dvp said...

hi samuel & jemima!

definitely let's keep in touch. we have some friends up in the bay area and would love to visit them too. maybe we could make a family trip up and see everyone at once!

david